pageant queen and this is weird. meet kansas lay leash. she's a moroccan lifestyle influencer who has just been crowned miss ai. ai is an artificial intelligence that's right. she's not real. everything from these images and videos that she's in her social media captions. this is all ai generated. so weird. pageant organizers say competitors had to answer questions like real human pageant contestants, and they weren't judged on their looks alone, but on their creators use of ai tools as well. around 1,500 programmers from around the world injured and kenza lilly's very real creator, one $5,000 we're just not ready for ai, were not ready. >> it's uncanny how it's not real it's just really enough that it just creeps you out. yeah. >> yeah. yeah. we'll leave you with that. we hope we have creeped out where real. thanks for being with us the lead with jake tapper starts right now

perhaps the most critical press conference in president biden's 54 year long political career. the lead starts right now all eyes on president joseph biden with an immensely consequential news conference set to start soon ahead. an avalanche of new reporting, revealing anger and shock over efforts to hide hi president biden's decline this hour, i'll speak with one of the latest house democrats calling on the president to drop out of the 2024 race, plus, with president biden still commander in chief, what can he actually achieve on on the world stage? white house adviser john kirby will be here on the lead and new evidence. donald trump may know a lot more about the controversial project 2025, even after he said again today that he knows nothing about him welcome to the lead. i'm jake tapper. we start in our 2024 lead of course, with a high-stakes day for president

biden in just a few hours, the president's going to hold a news conference and take reporters questions as the three-day nato summit ends, the world will see how president biden fields and answers questions live without a teleprompter after his disastrous debate performance two weeks ago today. and a tape tv interview in a handful of collin interviews that certainly did nothing to quell concerns. biden's big moment today, overshadowed by new bombshell reporting from multiple outlets, reporting that the president may be losing the support of even his closest aides from the new york times, quote, some biden advisers are discussing how to convince him and to step aside from nbc news, no one involved in the effort thinks he has a path biden insiders say the writing is on the wall. another from the new york times, quote, biden campaign quietly tasks kamala harris versus trump and another headline from our own team here at cnn. angry and stun democrats have blamed biden's closest advisers for shielding public from full extent of the president's decline. white house and the campaign of biden trying to clean up the biden mess today, pushing back against this new

reporting, sending top campaign officials to capitol hill to meet with lawmakers to try to convince them a biden's capability bots house democratic leader hakeem jeffries of new york today refused to answer questions as to whether president biden should stay in the race instead saying this as house democrats, we have engaged in a process of talking to each other those conversations have been candid comprehensive. our conversations have been candid comprehensive and clear-eyed, and they are ongoing. democrats are engaged in conversations with house democrats at this moment. in time. those conversations have been candid clear-eyed and comprehensive can candid, clear-eyed, comprehensive. >> got it. >> this is just the latest odd chapter in this sad tale

democratic elected officials refusing to publicly say that president biden is the best person to lead the democratic ticket, trying in any number of ways to dodge a direct answer. take a listen we have a president who has gotten the nomination, who's earned at who is going barreling toward convention. and unless he decides something differently this is the field and this is the high-stakes where does he have a path to victory though i still need to see the data and analytics that you didn't see show me the path to victory. we need to be prepared to make hard, cold decisions joe biden still be your candidate next week. >> i don't know events are unfolding very fast. >> we start with cnn's mj lee at the white house, and mj, you helped break that cnn reporting that there are a lot of democrats furious, furious with biden advisers furious with them. what tell us more yeah,

you know, one thing that we have heard so consistently since that cnn debate some two weeks ago was how shocked democrats across the board we're by the president's performance and seeing him be so halting and days at moments on that debate stage talk to a lot of folks who said, of course we know that he has age. >> of course we had seen some signs, especially over the last year of his decline in terms of his physical stamina, his mental clarity, but that version of the president that we saw on the debate stage, they said was basically unrecognizable. and what my colleagues and i have really reported on is there is a lot of anger and the blame that is being placed on the inner circle of advisers and family members all around the president. and what he's people say is this really painstakingly choreographed and staged, managed daily operations at the white house around the president that is set up specifically designed to prevent the public from often seeing the president in these

extended, unscripted settings. and one thing that many of the books that we spoke with that they are so furious about is this idea that when people have gone to these inner circle of advisers around the president to express some of these concerns, or that they were not taken seriously. please or really brushed aside. this is what one top democrat told me. they said, everyone who expresses any level of suspicion or contrary views, they call everyone and they beat the out of them and say, stay on message. now, it is not just the inner circle of advisers that is getting a lot of this heat. it is also members of the president's family who of course, have been up there, are really standing by the president's decision to so far saying this race and what is the white house saying in response to all of this? >> because it's a barrage of a governor or a senator, or a house member, and it's pretty typical, none of them saying yes, he's the best candidate for us to keep the white house, not one of them saying they're

they're being as polite as they can be really is there any sense inside the white house or the biden campaign that they're hearing what is being strongly in biden public. >> yeah. i mean, we got an extensive response from the white house to our story defending the breadth of the president's recent travels, his engagements with the press. certainly his record in the first three-and-a-half years in office. they also provided comments from senior officials in the administration, basically saying the president is one thing that white house spokesperson andrew bates said in a part of the statement was joe biden has always said that it is fair for reporters to ask about his age. i do have to disagree with that. jake, the president has not always indicated that he believes those questions are fair, having been on the receiving end of the president declining to acknowledge and dismiss when he has been questioned about polls showing that so many americans do have questions about his age and his fitness.

and i guess that idea is about to be put to the test in a couple of hours because when he faces those questions at this press conference, we certainly expect that those issues are going to be really top of mind and central to that press conference, mj lee. thank you so much. appreciate it. let's go to capitol well, now, top members of the biden campaign team have been trying to quell a potential revolt meeting with congressional democrats today. definitely trying to tamp down a sense of panic. cnn's manu raju's on the hill for us, manu tell us more about these meetings. who from the biden team is on the hill today? >> yeah, there are three senior biden advisers that includes mike donilon, steve richetti, and the biden campaign chair jen o'malley, dillon meeting with senate democrats behind closed doors over lunch. and this turned into more of a listening session. more than anything else, senators, i'm told spoke more than they did. in fight mode. my colleague lauren fox and i are learned that polling data, in fact was not presented to the senator's in this meeting. instead, it was mostly senators who spoke

and the campaign responded by talking about biden's upcoming campaign schedule is up coming press conference is upcoming interview on monday, all of which they tried to reassure these senate skeptics, which didn't seem to work in talking to members. they came out, they also made clear hear that biden's team did not indicate that the president would drop out of this race do you think your colleagues concerns have been addressed after meetings with his campaign? >> well, i think they got an awful lot of questions. yeah. and i got more questions answered so i think they've got a good plan going forward. he's our nominee. he's our president, he's going to win. i'm campaign co-chair and i have every confidence in the president. >> i still need more data, more analytics that show a path to success. and what's more important than my concern? that's are the questions that have been raised by the american people. >> i have naturally graham, i'm going to really appreciate the white house is assuming all so that last comment comes from peter welch, who became the

first democrat today to call for joe biden to step aside from this race. he indicated there though, for senate democrat, i should say he indicated there though, jake, his mind has not been changed in the aftermath of that meeting. >> yeah. and we're now up to a dozen congressional democrats house and senate, publicly calling for president biden to step aside. >> yeah, that's brad schneider became the 12th total in all of congress and the sentiment though behind closed doors, is much more severe. in fact, i am told that after this press conference, if it does not go as well oh, particularly well for the president or after the nato summit, expect more democrats to come out, the more trickle could come out day by day by day. and that could lead to more pressure on biden and his team. the question is, will that change the president's calculus because there is enormous concern, even though that is a small fraction of the overall house senate democratic members of congress, it is still does not represent the full scale of the concern behind closed doors. and that

could change after today? yeah. and i think one of the keys here for our viewers at home to understand brad schneider, the congressman, who is became, became the 12th congressional democrat to make this public call, he was on the show a few days ago and he refused to say that biden would be the best person on the top of the ticket. he just said it was imperative that donald trump be defeated. my interpretation is any elected democrat, not saying yes, biden's the best feels the way that brad schneider did and he inevitably shared his real feelings today. >> yeah. no question about it. and that's why i think we can expect to see more. i've asked several democrats, do do you believe that joe biden is their best candidate in this race? they love them are simply saying, no comment and jake, that no comment says a lot. >> it's quite a comment. manu raju on capitol hill. thanks. just hours before congressman brad schneider is announcement this afternoon that he isn't supporting president biden on the ticket, democratic representative hillary sultan of michigan became the tents house democrat to publicly call for biden to step aside the way

that this is moving though you're not the latest on anymore we booked you but tell me, i know this is i don't mean to be flip about it because it's it's sad and i'm sure this was a difficult decision. tell me why. yeah incredibly difficult. yeah. there is there is nothing to the glib or flip about here. no one wants to be in this situation. and let me be crystal clear. the president has an incredible record. he has delivered so much for this country as a senator, vice president, and as president. i haven't always agreed with the president on anything, but he's got a record that any he president would be proud to run on or or retire on and but but the issue is this is not about the past. it's about the future, and we need to have the strongest possible candidate that we can working to prevent donald trump and lead us into the future. >> do you think that well, let me ask this this all comes obviously after the debate two

weeks ago. >> sure and i wonder had you seen because george clooney said that the joe biden he saw at the fundraiser june 15 in la was the same one we all saw on the debate. had you seen that joe biden before? it was the debate. now, it was the debate in that's that's really where a lot of this starts you know, i mean, i had said on this show previously when asked about biden's age, you know, seeing is believing, well, seeing is believing and we all saw what we saw on the debate stage, and we cannot ask millions of americans to unsee that or ignore that, right? and i think after people witnessed that for me, it was the first time i had just been with the president of the congressional picnic at the white house with my kids just a couple of weeks before. and i saw the joe biden that i knew working the rope line 100% humidity, 90 degree heat. he's out there for hours. just

talking to people and that was not what we saw on the debate stage. and i think what happened then is i think that the narrative got it a little bit wrong where people said there was panic. i know i personally did not feel any panic, but it was a moment that made us all pay attention, ask more questions, raised concerns, say, hey, what is going on here in that moment. the, the biden campaign had an opportunity to say, hey just a fluke one bad night it's been two weeks and to turn the ship around and that has not happened. instead, we're continuing to hear more and more stories like this, where we're continuing to see divisions within the party. and that's what caused me to act today. we have a narrow and closing window no where we can actually make a change and i have heard from so many constituents who have said hillary speak up, say something we need you to do, something you are voice there and despite

repeated calls for concerns internally, it felt essential for me to speak out and say something publicly to speak up, do the right thing, and to speak on behalf of his constituents. those voters who can't do that. so i know there's no consensus on this, but in your world and your view what would happen next? would kamala harris get it and then she picks a running mate where there'll be some sort of many primary system and then everybody goes to the convention. what, what would you like? i would say the biggest point is that there are options right. to honor the will of the voters and to make this a democratic process to find a replacement. let's be clear. this is if joe biden steps aside and in my statement today, i made clear and i stand by the fact this is the president's decision. and should he choose not to step aside? i will still vote for him. right. as an absolutely necessary alternative to donald

trump. but if he were to choose to step aside, we do have alternatives at the convention where we can democratically secure a new nominee for the democratic party. you're from michigan, would gretchen whitmer be at the top of the ticket i mean it seems like the governor has made it very clear that she is supporting the president. >> if this if president biden were to bow out i obviously can't speak for the governor's to do an agreement would like her would you want her well, i think that there are a number of fantastic candidates, including, let's talk about our vice president, right? who would be next in line, who has been on the ticket, who has been delivering so many of the incredible accomplishments of the biden-harris administration theoretically would a harris running mate to be named later ticket do better in michigan than joe biden. >> i mean, i think that is what the polling is beginning to indicate. you're seeing you're seeing internal polling that we're not seeing. well, i think that we are seeing that increasingly it is clear that

joe biden is not the best choice for the top of the ticket, and i will i will leave it at that. and it has been impressed upon me by my constituents by my voters to say something in this moment before it's too late. while we can still make a change and we can the people who say it's, it's too late. the ship has passed. it's, it's just fundamentally not true and do you represent a lot of your colleagues who are have not come forward? >> i'll do a lot of them feel the same way. i'm not asking for name, but a lot of them still feel the same way, but they're just not there yet to say publicly, i feel so strongly that i will not speak for but from my colleagues on this point they can clearly speak for themselves, but i think that we are divided in this party, right? i mean, we have seen people's coming out and saying that they think biden still is the best choice for the top of the ticket. but we know that your colleague, haley stevens from michigan, so we'll feels that way. absolutely and i respect i

respect their decision. right. but i cannot look away from my constituents and my voters who are asking me to speak up in this moment it is, it is hard to do something like i am doing right now, but the people elected me to do the hard right thing especially when it's challenging, especially when there might be backlash from powerful sources. but speaking the truth is, is essential right now, last question, which is with biden at the top of the ticket how concerned are you about a red tsunami? about just because his polling numbers or cratering and i'm hearing from democratic officials all over the country internals are just horrible and battleground districts like yours in states that should not be competitive becoming competitive, we hear anecdotes about new york. how worried are you that this isn't just even about the white house. this is about a seismic change in who controls the

house, the senate governor's offices, and state legislatures well, you know, jake, i have always said, i don't panic. i plan and i have been planning since the debate when we saw concerning signs that the president was, you know, maybe not in the capacity that we thought he was in and over these last two weeks we have seen an inability to address those concerns. and to unify the party. right. and that has severe implications up and down the ballot. you can not win the presidency without winning michigan. you cannot win michigan without winning west michigan that's why i felt it was important to speak up, congressman golden thank you so much. i know it wasn't easy. appreciate your being here even before the news conference, we're likely going to see president biden. and the next few minutes at nato, where he could give brief remarks. i'm also going to speak with john kirby close, assistant adviser to president biden moments ago, the biden campaign responding to reports that it asked a radio station to edit a taped interview with president biden,

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the first solo news conference of the year and assistant to the president and national security communications adviser, retired admiral john kirby joins us now, admiral kirby, thanks for joining this afternoon, ukrainian president hello, demands zelenskyy said he hopes to discuss lifting, quote, all limitations for our ukrainian soldiers right now, obviously, the biden administration is only allowing ukraine to use us weapons district break inside russia where russian forces are actively targeting ukraine, how open is president biden to letting ukraine hit anywhere it feels it needs to in russia well, we want to make sure that obviously jake, they have the tools and capabilities they need to defend themselves and some of that does include the guidance on how to hear some of these weapons and you're right. >> we just agreed. president allowed them to use for strikes just across the border. us weapons. there's no change beyond that right now. this is a conversation that we continue to happen that would the ukrainians, certainly we understand where president zelenskyy is coming from. but we have to think very carefully

with every decision we make with respect to not only what we're providing ukraine, but how that stuff is being used. so that we can also make sure we pay proper attention to the risks of escalation here, this conflict. >> let's turn to another hotspot national security adviser, jake sullivan will biden's said earlier today that a framework seems to have been hammered out in the hostage and ceasefire deal between israel and hamas. prime minister netanyahu earlier today said not only that there is still work to be done, and that hamas's demands contradict the plan. but he seems to be toughening his demands at the same time that this framework has been agreed to. what's going on, how far are we from a deal? >> we believe we're close as jake said, and we're cautiously optimistic that we can actually get this done. an essential framework has been hammered out between the two sides that is not insignificant. i mean, that's in some ways farther than we have gotten before, but as jake also noted, there's details in

terms of implementation that have to be hammered but now between the two sides, and that's why our team is still in the region talking to counterparts to see if we can get there. we believe it's possible to close these gaps, jake, we believe we're close but obviously more work has to be done you told my colleague wolf blitzer last evening that the focus this week is on the nato alliance. >> and not on president biden's fitness to serve questions being raised by democrats on capitol hill. the wall street journal reported after the debate that quote, polish prime minister if you're donald tusk told reporters that the democrats have a problem regarding president biden's fitness and the former slovenian prime minister said that he predicted months ago biden would not be on the ballot in november. it does seem as though the president's age and abilities plus american leadership at this summit and other international summits are not separate issues well, i look, i can't speak for individual leaders here and there. >> i can tell you two things. one just hasn't been a part of the conversation here. in fact,

the conversations that the president has been having hit to nato summit elie been all around american leadership on the world stage, how important his leadership and stewardship over the alliance has been. it's now two countries stronger. and of course, what we can all do to stand up to putin and support for ukraine. those have been the conversations that we've been having not about the domestic political situation here in the united states, but i would also point you if we're going to talk about individual leaders new uk prime minister, prime minister starmer, also said publicly today that he found the president to be very much in good form. and so i think again, maybe it depends hands on who you talk to you, but again, it just hasn't been a focus of the conversations admiral john kirby, thanks so much. >> appreciate it yeah. >> you bet this programming note tomorrow here on the lead, my interview with the brand new uk prime minister keir starmer is barely won week into the job. >> again, that's tomorrow right here on the lead, which starts at 4:00 eastern time in these united states. this just coming in congressman greg

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reporting indicates you're gonna have more members coming out. the question is, is that what's going to tip joe biden's thinking just the aggregate number of house democrats are senate democrats, or is this going to require intervention from senior leadership in the party? the likes of brock obama, nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, to get him, his family and his advisers, closest advisers? into a conversation where they're truly engaging in the introspective moment for this president about whether or not he is actually making it harder for the democrats to keep the white house in their hands if he does maintain his candidates, i can't stop thinking about the story. a friend of mine told me about when he had to take his car keys away from i'm his dad and his dad who didn't forgive him, and his dad died holding the car keys there is a pride and anger or resentment about what happens to us. all of us, if we're lucky enough to get old. and that is part of

what's going on here. it feels like yeah, look, democrats would rather be talking about donald trump. these 34 charges, the abortion project 2025, the fact that he has to name a vice president and because he was letting his vice president be threatened by insurrectionist write his own vice president owned by, not endorsing him exactly but instead we're talking about this infighting that has done very much public and the reality is, and we talked about this before we came on air. >> the concern about president biden amongst some of our base young voters, some black voters was actually before the debate. and this actually isn't helping us. we're losing time already talking to those voters about other things that they care about. and now we're over here having had this conversation about whether or not he should drop out to your point about who can actually have that conversation with her. it's not going to be this public discourse with all of these people writing op-eds it's probably not going to listen to an actor, george clooney all of these public shaming, i just say something in defense of george clooney, one of the biggest fundraisers

in the history of the democratic party in general, totally not likely to be the thing that causes. >> i'm just saying yes, it's that probably does. >> your right and that probably does say something because he did make some calls around israel and palestine to the white house. it is going what's your take people that have been around biden for decades, people that he trusts those inner conversations. it's also going to take a shift in the campaign leadership to have a very real conversation about what he should do. and the last thing i will say, if he does decide to stay in we can't as a party, continue to brow beat voters across the head and say, you just have to get a line without actually listening to their concerns and coming to the table with some concessions. >> david, a new biden campaign memo obtained by cnn shows that the campaign has clearly downplaying the possibility that somebody else could actually become the nominee, or that that person would do better than joe biden. they do acknowledge that polling has taken a hit, but they also say that they still see a path to 270. that path runs through the

best path, they say through michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, i might observe, that's their only path and like arizona and nevada, and georgia were arguably gone before the debate. >> yeah. and we have time to go, but they were already certainly leaning way. that's what i call from joe biden and quite frankly, as you know, jake, if you sit down with biden campaign officials prior to the debate? they would say they're path to 270 is through michigan, pennsylvania, and wisconsin through the second congressional district and tabasco. and they wanted this early debate because they wanted to wake up the public to this race and to this contrast, the public has been awakened to this contest. i don't think in the way that the biden campaign wanted, but you should just note sitting it's the debate. michigan, pennsylvania, and wisconsin got harder, not easier. so that even though they see that as the only viable path that means they're viable path got less probable for that, just it just to vasely it as their best path. i'm the one saying it's their only path as of right now, stay

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since cabinet positions obviously not an accurate thing to say. the second when biden was talking about trump's past comments about the central park five and we should note like this is a big journalism, no, no editing out an answer because the politician and his campaign didn't like it or he didn't he didn't, they didn't like how he came across. i don't know exactly the reason. we'll find out from the biden campaign maybe someday. i'll get your reaction again just to remind people, these were the interviews he did to clean up the mess. >> look, it is not making things a lot easier for us right now is democrats, i will say as a comm staffer, we will sometimes go after an interview and tried to clean up the quotes. however, to get the goal across that president biden knows what he's talking about that to temper down some of this conversation, this isn't helpful, but at the same in time, i we have to continue to get him out there because right now he is the nominee and we have to keep talking about the threat. on the other side,

there are a lot of accomplishments this administration has achieved for a lot of different constituencies that needs to be communicated. the harder part is as we're trying to communicate those, this conversation about him continuing he needs to be the nominee is sucking up all the oxygen and i think the campaign and the white house are trying to make sure that that is not the case. and this isn't helpful, but they're not unrelated. all the things that could be communicated, the achievements of the biden administration, and the fact we're having this conversation is because the president has such a tough time communicating them. >> david, there's no so doubt about it. and you noted this these were outings to try to clean up the debate performance, but they were also deliberately chosen outings for what the white house and the campaign deemed and perceived to be friendly interviews go to a base constituency. a lot of african american listeners they supplied questions. we learned that then they, these interviewers worked from supplied questions. one of them lost her job over that practice. we learned that we're learning that they're editing out answers. so what exactly

would the biden folks say that they are trying to prove by doing these interviews that he can handle it wasn't unscripted and it was. retrofitted what they wanted him to say. so it proves none of what they were actually trying to prove to get him in a more unscripted format. >> and also i saw this on twitter or x earlier. this infighting is getting, is getting rougher and rougher congressman bennie thompson. i believe he's the top democrat on the homeland security committee referred to a comment somebody was talking about, keep the faith and congressman thompson, somebody a biden supporter, stick with biden and congressman thompson wrote, i enjoyed listening to you. i hope my backstabbing colleagues are listening my hope my backstabbing colleagues are listening. and by that he's referring to i presumably democrats who are expressing concern about president biden being the person, best person to take it to trump left than i can only speculate what he was

trying to say and he probably said it pretty clearly right. but i haven't talked to the right he probably especially rated like a lot of democrats are that this are dirty laundry is being aired out like this, right? we're used to seeing the chaos on the other side of the aisle. there's something to be said about black voters in this moment and that when the debate happen, i'm on the phone with a lot of other black political strategist like myself, we're all talking about this. it isn't necessarily that the black support is going to go to the other side. it's a matter of us having to do more work to get people to come off the couch. and so he is doubling down on. we've got to move on from this fight. if he's the nominee, were riding with biden, that's what he would say or we've got to continue to move on to the messaging that's going to help us win in november. >> and what i thought so interesting, the washington post, abc news ipsos poll today was the rachel and demographic lines, racial and age lines. on the question of whether biden should remain the nominee african american democrats, more likely to say he should remain the nominee, then hispanic democrats or white democrats? younger democrats

clearly ready for him to not be the nominee, but older democrats split about evenly older democrats, african american democrats, they are more inclined to let biden stay on as the nominee. >> and we should note also when you talk about the how african americans were less likely to say get rid of them. it still 47, keep them 49%, get rid of them. i mean, it's still within the margin, is about 50. 50 is alright. david alencia, thanks so much. appreciated. donald trump said again today, he knows nothing about the controversial project 2025. nothing. i see nothing but more evidence or does speak to the contrary. we're getting into that next july 21, a special how would really happen with it lantos olympic celebration turned deadly, the fbi searched for answers and all the wrong places narrative being

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group, a negative to lay the groundwork in detail plans for exactly what our movement will do and what you're movement will do when the american people give us a colossal mandate to save american nor does this claim on truth, social last night match, new cnn reporting today from steve contorno, which finds quote at least 140 people who worked in the trump administration had a hand in project 2025 here now to talk about this, cnn's alyssa farah griffin and former republican congressman adam kinzinger. thanks to both you for being here. so congressman kinzinger, you recently wrote, quote, project 2025 would consolidate power in the presidency, removing the checks and balances that allow congress to slow down or even cancel controversial projects do you? by what president trump is saying about not knowing anything about it? of course he knows it. look, he's he's heritage foundation plays a very important role in his campaign. and let's also quick aside, keep in mind the heritage foundation recently

flew the american flag upside down, which somehow is cool now to do, even though that used to be a very anti-american thing. so he knows his people around him know they're deeply involved in this. and this is all about remaking the federal government, not just to be like a conservative federal government, but you think about what this does to competency. so if you want to get a license to do whatever through the federal government those people that do those licenses are put out your social security check, or do those things that we require every day? they're talking about replacing them with folks that have no idea what they're doing because the other people that have been working there have not sworn allegiance to donald trump in what we know about donald trump is the only wants people around him that swear an allegiance to him. and that's it. unless trump, of course, continues to claim he hasn't seen project 2025. he doesn't know anything about it. he's called it quote ridiculous and abysmal project 2025. you worked for president trump in the white house why do you think trump doesn't want it to be linked to this? >> well there's some very controversial parts of it. one is eradicating social security,

which he knows is obviously a political loser. but listen, people deeply connected to donald trump were part of this. he obviously praised it. he's going to be the first to tell you that agenda 47 is actually his plan and platform. but the key part of project 2025 that adams hitting on, i think it's the most important part for americans to understand is this reshaping of the federal government. and i saw the actual executive order at the end of the last administration, ready to go, that would remake every civil servant into a political appointee and a loyalist to trump. and it goes beyond social security and some of these technical things. it's the national security 30 apparatus. it's our emergency management. it's fema, it's responding to natural disasters pandemics, those would all be, our subject matters that dr. fauci's of the world would be replaced with whatever loyalist he puts into those positions. so it's a very, very scary thing that's actionable and ready to go by donald trump, the new york times editorial board today published but pretty scathing piece calling president trump unfit to lead.

they write quote, we urge voters to see the dangers of a second trump term clearly and to reject it. the stakes insignificance of the presidency demand a person who has essential qualities and values to earn our trust and on each one, donald trump fails alyssa, this comes obviously after the new york times editorial board calls hold on, president biden to step down and not run for reelection what's your reaction there right on every word of it, but i think the part of this that's so devastating to folks like congressman kinzinger and myself who's been raising alarm bells about donald trump for years now, is the opportunity to litigate the case of how unfit donald trump is, what a historically unfit characterise for office was that, that cnn debate and president biden proved himself unable to litigate that case. and i'm squarely in the camp of the democrats need to come up with another option, or they're undermining their strongest message, which is a true message. this cycle democracy is on the line, so they need to put up a fighter who is better equipped to litigate this case against donald trump for the american

people. >> so let me, i want to ask both of you this as well. start with you congressman. let's assume president biden sticks with what he's doing now and refuses refuses to step down you don't want donald trump to be elected president. what are you gonna do in november? you're a republican who feels abandoned by the trump part of your party. oh, that's easy. i'll vote for joe biden. i mean, the difference here is yes. i mean, joe biden needs to questions that he cares about the future of this country. nobody questions that donald trump cares about one person he cares about donald trump and helps burn the country down to get their, it's very clear. we saw january 6. let's not forget, he refused to give up power. he watched for three hours until law enforcement turned the tide. he didn't say a word and then he only be grudgingly said a word on behalf of law enforcement or send people home. it is a no-brainer to me. i'd actually vote for mayor mick cheese if he was running against donald trump. so in my mind, there is no buddy less qualified to

serve in the oval office than donald trump, merriman, she's not born in the united states and eligible alyssa just a quick thought to you who would you vote for if president biden stays in the race? >> this gets a lot more complicated since the debate. i just have to be honest, i was prepared to quietly vote for biden because the stakes are so high, but having worked in the department of defense, the vice president isn't in the chain of command senior staff are not in the chain of command. i am genuinely worried about joe biden's fitness and ability to do the main structures of the presidency. if you work to continue for another four years, he needs to prove to the public that he's going to be able to take that through am phone call that he's going to be able to work all hours if he needs to answer might be different if i was in wayne county, michigan, i'm in new york voter, but i am deeply the deeply concerned about both of the options right now. alright, thanks to both of you appreciate it. the big moment coming up soon, president biden's solo news conference just coming in some brand new insight from a longtime adviser to president biden as even more democrats call on him to drop out of the 2024 race. president biden the count up now to 14 on

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